Death Hoax?

[belle_of_the_ball]

For every piece of circumstantial evidence of his being alive, there is tangible & credible evidence of his death. Like someone mentioned upthread, there's absolutely no way he'd be able to conceal himself for very long. And, what would his purpose be in faking his death? Getting out of shows? I don't buy that. Besides, people talk about those 50 shows as if they were all scheduled back to back. They weren't; there were breaks in between them over the months they were to have occurred.

Michael was marketed to appear 'bigger than life', and it's hard to fathom someone of his highly elevated status dying, particularly when you had an emotional attachment to him, or what he did. Alas, under that mantle of superstardom, he was still just a man made of flesh and bones -one who left us too soon.

I understand one hoping these rumors to be true, but like everything that surrounded him in life, some of them go way to far and are absolutely absurd.

I might also add, be careful if you choose to allow your curiosity to get the better of you, and you decide to delve into this more. There are so many people with ill intent; cons who wouldn't think twice before preying on you, (especially) even if only emotionally.

[suzmary]

I've juggled with this thought a time or two. I wanted it to be true; we all did. But I believe he died that awful day in June, 2009. I've wished it weren't true, but no amount of wishes or tears or prayers can change the fact that, whether you believe him faking or you believe him really dead, he's gone. Not coming back to us. I've been trying to find my peace with that for the past two and a half years. Most days, I celebrate all he was instead of lamenting all he wasn't able to still be, and that gets me by. I have angry days, weeping sad days, emotional longing for days of old, but when I turn off my computer at the end of the day and lay my head down, I think of him and pray for him that he's truly dancing in heaven, and then I thank God for the 50 years He gave him to us before He took him home.

[mjj4everinourhearts]

^^^^I agree suzmary

[jruby]

so its easier for u people to believe he would allow some jackazz and i do mean jackazz (donkey from shrek) to give him propofol
without proper equipment? when was is that Michael jackson became weak? in my 29 yrs as a fan I dont know of a time when i thought
he was weak? He is more intelligent than what you give him credit for. That man knows what he is doing. he is the one who said dont listen
media its not the truth. The same people that are reporting he died from propofol are the sames one who said he molested a child?
we didnt listen to them then why we doing it now? do you honestly believe that just cause he "died" the media will report the truth
about what happened? Do you think they truly would look into his "death". They never checked any news source before june 25th,
why would they do after? they wouldnt. They wouldnt report the truth if they had witnesed his death. Dont sit here and blatently be like
anyone who believes he is alive is a nut off the tree. WE did what were told. We didnt let the media rule us. How can anyone after the 05
trial believe anything the media or the police have to say about michael. They both lied and did illegal things. There is no way I believe any of this.
I checked stuff out. I checked the warrants, murray, etc out. I did my job i didnt trust it. Guess what i found nothing to be as is reported.
the warrants are a joke, muray is not murray, this stuff smells so bad i cant breath it is that much of a hoax. I cant prove he died.
Look this stuff up a simple google search will lead you to the truth.

[Thunder]

You make good points jruby. All I can say is that, whether he passed on, or whether he is in hiding, either way, he is no longer available to us. If he is in hiding, then he doesn't want us to find him. Unless he was kidnapped or held against his wishes, no good would come of it for him if he was outed.

[halina]

@jruby What do you think really happened to Michael? How did he died and why?

[jruby]

i think his death is just like when he was charged with 14 counts of lewd acts upon a child. I think it is all BS.
I think its all media hype that unless u look into it like i have done you think he died from propofol just like
people think he harms kids.
There is no proof michael died of anything. just like there is no proof he harmed a child. its all made up lies.
why would the family go along with it? i dont know they kept talking saying they needed to do an intervention
and michael wouldnt let them in. maybe this is it. Maybe Michael was ill and needed to retire and this way to do so.
The family is a show buisness family. they know how the media works . they know the world would believe
bubbles the chimp killed him if it made enough headlines. They also know not many people would take the time to look into it and figure out the real truth was Michael is healthy and was spotted outside petting a girraffe on june 25th. thats how far off the real muray truth is.
The few people who know the truth they make sure cant get it out.
I invite you all to go to google and research murray
and the police warrants. tell me what you find. im finding nothing is a s what it seems.

The idea that michael was paranoid or was in danger and thought people were after him, like what we have heard on the leaked audio phone messages
the last few yrs, it makes no sense then as to why michael would be allow someone to put him under ansthesia without proper equipment at home where really anyone who could do this to him could easily take his organs out, not give him oxygen, etc.

They could easily kill him.
It makes no sense why people say he was addicted to some drug
that is anthesia and he also was afraid for his life. The two do not go together? After that 05 trial i think its safe to say its not paranoia people were out to get him, so you tell me how we ended up with he was addicted to ansthesia which doesnt even make you sleep. He would be just as tired when he woke up from it

After the death headlines started out as he was addicted to demerol and oxycotin, it was nurse lee who made tv appearances and said he was addicted to propopfol, then all of a sudden he died from propofol. It was nurse lee who said mj's people called her he was begging for propofol on fathers day
shortly a few days before his death, but afterwards it is reported murray was giving him propofol for 6 weeks before he died? what is the truth? if he
had jackazz living at his house giving him what he needed illegally why call the nurse? This is headline bullcrap.
Its ended up being what people believe as
the truth.

Either he had a dr to give it to him every night for 6 weeks before his death or he didnt and he needed the nurse which is it?
it was not reported in court in murrays trial that dr murray had fathers day off? itw as reported in court he gave the drug to him every
night for 6 weeks and the night of his death or before his death is when murray had a brain fart and determined michael could be addicted.

Supoosably from what we have learned from the trial for murray is michael was in murrays bedroom. Murray had a room at his house? So what is the truth?

It cant be both ways. either he had a dr there or he didnt? but that supposed dr was prosecuted. His story told you he was there for 6weeks. So where
did nurse Lee come from? She is the one who created or started this propfol bull**** to begin with??Murray was on a supposed run for 3 days after june 25th when lee came out of nowhere, Did Michael die from demerol and oxycotin? and the media created this murray ****. if so why is the family happy murray was convicted but says he was the fall guy? Was Michael suffering from an eating disorder and knew this nurse who was a nutrinst? and she was just running her mouth? clearly something is not right here.

You got to put your grief for michael to the side none of this makes any sense. So why do we believe it?

He maybe in hiding or living a somewhat peaceful life now and isnt coming back
but dont let these vicious headlines take him
to believe he died from being addicted to ansthesia is just as bad as it is to believe he harmed a child?
It's what the media wants you to believe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LeSt...eature=related
he was afraid for his life, take a listen, He was afraid to sleep.
He wasnt begging someone to put him alseep
he said he wanted to get away for a while, it also mentioned
janet and randy intervened.
He also said he wanted to die
his way.
He was telling us what happened through these clips
after june 25th 2009.

[halina]

@jruby : thank you very much for all those information. The first phone call I received after MJ death was from...... he said they killed Michael Jackson, it was few minutes after his death become officially known.

[encinogirl]

Belle's question - what would be his purpose in faking his death?......speculation included that he was threatened very badly with more charges regarding boys, and that his kids would be taken away, etc and so he became extremely desperate.....but I don't think it's true. I think the point is, as Suz says below, is that Michael is gone from us. Suz, you have a positive and accepting way of looking at Michael's time with us.

I've juggled with this thought a time or two. I wanted it to be true; we all did. But I believe he died that awful day in June, 2009. I've wished it weren't true, but no amount of wishes or tears or prayers can change the fact that, whether you believe him faking or you believe him really dead, he's gone. Not coming back to us. I've been trying to find my peace with that for the past two and a half years. Most days, I celebrate all he was instead of lamenting all he wasn't able to still be, and that gets me by. I have angry days, weeping sad days, emotional longing for days of old, but when I turn off my computer at the end of the day and lay my head down, I think of him and pray for him that he's truly dancing in heaven, and then I thank God for the 50 years He gave him to us before He took him home.

[jruby]

so u really believe that Michael drank propofol from a juicebox and died while murray was taking a crap?
cause that is what we are told is the truth..................